Ejaculation without orgasm

A comment has caused me to seek advice from you dear followers.

I think for a male there is an ejaculation without an orgasm as well as an ejaculation with one. An orgasm includes a huge feeling of euphoria. I can give bitch-boy a spoiled ejaculation by stopping all physical contact with his penis the very first moment ejaculation begins. Another way is when he is caused to ejaculate without euphoria by prostate stimulation. In these two cases, there is an ejaculation of semen but no euphoria. HE HATES THIS!

An orgasm (feeling or euphoria) appears to require appropriate continued stimulation of the penis once the ejaculation has begun, until it ceases.

I have never given him an ejaculation, when he is locked in his CB6000 by continued use of a vibrator/massager on the surface of the CB6000. (Partly because he is usually locked in his polycarbonate tube and I only use the CB6000 for special occasions.) I have seen on the web, ejaculations caused this way. I wonder if there is any euphoria, I would have doubted it. If you have experienced an ejaculation while in a CB6000 or similar chastity device, was there euphoria?

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31 Responses to Ejaculation without orgasm

  1. Kres says:

    I very often experience ejaculation whilst being given a good caning or strapping. Unfortunately not often enough. Any takers. regulation@Mail. co m

  2. sillymaid says:

    Mistress

    I’ve a silicone cb6000s and can orgasm as well as ejaculate. It hurts but it’s pleasurable.

    If I get a ruinef one like you describe, no touching as I squirt, it is still pleasurable, just not as much as being handled as I cum.

    The least pleasurable ones are when an estim is used, cheap pain relief one from chemists, as the juices flow the electrical resistance in my penis reduce, so as I cum the pain goes up, to the point the pain overtakes the sensation of cumming….a wasted orgasm and pain!

    Curtsy Missie

  3. emssub says:

    Ms. Scarlet:
    I am locked up in the P-5000 which is very similar to bb’s polycarbonate tube. My mistress, eM, rarely lets me out and so most of my milkings or ejaculations are while locked in it. eM merely holds the vibrator against the tube while stimulating my nipples and eventually I will have a ruined orgasm. There is no “euphoria” as you describe it, and while in some way there is the “relief” of “getting it all out” there is also a good bit of discomfort since the stimulation from the vibrator makes the penis want to engorge, but of course because of the tube, it cannot. I find myself as often as not wanting not to cum, simply because the act of doing so in this fashion leaves me a little sore. Also, even an orgasm ruined in this fashion will tend to leave me with a diminished level of frustration.

    BTW, I adore your blog, and it is on the blog roll of by own blog. Thank you for being so much of an inspiration to us all.

    best,

    r

  4. John says:

    There is pleasure in the build up while caged, but the bitter-sweet kind of “pleasure” in which you are trying to get somewhere but you know the odds are heavily stacked against you. As to your specific question, for me at least, no…there is no euphoria. Physiologically there is some release of “pressure” or that “pressure” feeling, but emotionally there is the initial tease/denial “pleasure” mentioned above, followed by a very emotionally impactful drop/disappointment following the orgasm. It is a very disappointing and frustrating feeling. It is a powerful and lasting mind-fuck.

  5. Jacob Y says:

    I wouldn’t call it ejaculation without orgasm. I have experienced ejaculation from prostate stimulation and it is a pleasurable feeling… just not as strong as penile stimulation. It’s almost like an internal orgasm, but it feels good and it is definitely a type of orgasm, with penis muscles spasming from it. (That doesn’t mean that some still won’t hate it in comparison to a highly stimulated orgasm.)

    I have not ever been in a chastity device but I have had an orgasm from a vibrator while “trapped and not erect” inside pants. It is more pleasurable than a ruined orgasm. And… a ruined orgasm is still very pleasurable, yet in a different way. There is a mental and emotional release from it, especially from a submissive male, that is pleasing… not to mention that any time I ejaculate it is pleasurable in any way.

    If you want to make it a negative event, there must be something painful and/or extremely unpleasurable done at the same time, in conjunction with the orgasm.

    Since I have never experienced my last suggestion, I can only say that every time I have ejaculated, it felt good to varying degrees and every single time was definitely an orgasm of some sort.

    (I wonder if some submissives play up the fact that they are disappointed or don’t like certain pleasures that are lesser than others for the purpose of getting more more often or just to add to the emotional drama of an event.)

  6. Bot1st says:

    I have. It was completely satisfying to me. I don’t know if the cage squeezing me made it satisfying or what. But it was like a full one. I napped afterwards.

  7. Slaverd says:

    if the slave ejaculate that way. in my experience it will have a great pleasure with ejaculation ! in my opinion crush the slave balls with your hands until it comes out the semen can be a good option too. that’s how my owner likes to do !

  8. subhubphx says:

    For me, the ejaculation without orgasm (or ruined orgasm) has become my preferred way to orgasm. In 2014, I was allowed 6 orgasms. In 2015, it was 4 orgasms and so far this year there have been 2 orgasms, with the first one coming in the morning on New Years Day. None of which I am complaining about. Over time, I have become conditioned to crave the constant state of desire that comes along with a ruined orgasm, or with being denied altogether. In fact, I have even been able to achieve a self induced ruined orgasm, with zero stimulation to my own cock, by merely witnessing Mistress K. having an orgasm herself. One of those times was while in my CB6000 and yes, there was euphoria, but not orgasm based euphoria. It was the euphoria associated with being allowed to be in the presence of my beautiful Mistress Wife while she orgasmed.

  9. Tom Allen says:

    Over the years I’ve experienced a number of incomplete orgasms while wearing my CB3000. Here’s one experience:
    https://vanillaedge.wordpress.com/2007/08/02/orgasmic-release-in-a-cb-3000/

    I found that Mrs Edge using the Hitachi on the polycarbonate CB3000 will leave me an incomplete orgasm, although it’s not quite as frustrating as an intentionally ruined one. I think that the plastic is lightweight enough so that it transfers the vibrations better. I’ve also been locked up in The Fort (a very heavy, cast stainless steel clone of the CB3000), and using the vibrator on that is much less satisfying; presumably the heavier device is not transferring the vibrations as well.

    But one more factor is that while locked into a device, you can’t have a full erection — that also makes one’s orgasms less complete. Is there euphoria? Not really; I’d call it just a little better than an intentionally ruined one.

  10. I have been subjected to several chastity devices made of polycarbonate,silicone and stainless steel. The worst is a ruined orgasm in steel because the bars bite into the skin and when the vibrator is taken away and and ejaculation begins it becomes very painful very quickly. My wife’s favorite is to give me a Cialis ,cage me in steel , with tens electrodes on the top base of the shaft and on the bottom touching the frenulum. She sets the TENS unit to ramp for 8 sec ,the amplitude to 8, on for a minute and half and off for 10 sec. Ejaculation usually occurs after about 12 to 15 cycles. The combined strain of the erection inside the steel, constant stimulation from the TENS and when the unit cycles off is just past misery. I usually cry at some point during this treatment. Sessions go for an hour usually. My clitty looks like a bbq steak with grill marks and ice is usually needed to take the swelling down.

  11. tinus says:

    To me it’s more of a sliding scale and not a dichotomy. There is always some pleasure, but it is enhanced if I keep stimulating after ejaculation has begun. I’ve managed to come a couple of times from using a vibrator while I was locked in a cb6000. Those were some of my most intense orgasms, maybe because it took a long time to build up to them. I would advise your readers to be cautious, though: one of the times I broke the cb6000 and injured myself.

  12. Riley says:

    My Mistress likes to ruin my orgasms by keeping me in chastity at the time. After a recent week in chastity, for example, she had me kneel at the side of the bed and hump her high-heeled shoes until I went off in the cage. There’s no euphoria at all; in fact, it’s arguably the worst thing she does to me. It’s worse than the regular ruining because of the way the cage interferes with release. The orgasm starts but then there’s some kind of fluid-pressure thing that backs up, hurts, like hell, and just keeps fighting it. It’s like a series of aborted spurts that are extremely painful, to say nothing of humiliating. And when it’s all over there’s virtually no sense of release, only throbbing pain. It’s no fun at all.

  13. Jacob Y says:

    I am somewhat surprised at many of the responses. It must be a personal opinion of how someone defines pleasurable or euphoric. Personally, for me, there are three things to say here:

    1. Some orgasms, such as those with pain or ruined ones, may not be “euphoric” but ALL have been pleasurable in some measure to me.

    2. Every time I have ejaculated, it was definitely an orgasm with muscle spasms and pleasurable feelings.

    3. If you are going to give me an unsatisfying ejaculation, you will have to cause me far more pain than the feeling of pleasure and relief I get from ejaculating. So I agree with most here, it can be done… but I have yet to experience that and I’ve had some very painful orgasms. (…and no, I’m not offering to try with anyone. The right woman will get me some day. sigh)

    • Muscle spasms are not indicative at all of orgasm. You do not seem to get that. ‘….some pleasure…’ is not euphoria. Euphoria being a temporary trance like state.

      • Lenny says:

        I’m in my 40’s. I have had thousands of orgasms. I don’t think I’ve ever been in a “temporary trance-like state.” I can stop in the middle of an orgasm to answer the phone, although I don’t want to. I don’t have a major loss of control because of an orgasm. The definition of Orgasm is excitement, most of the time mixed with ejaculation. Believe me, every time I’ve ejaculated I have been physically and emotionally excited to at least some degree. Euphoria is not listed in any definition I’ve seen in a dictionary.

        • I hope you are not one of those people who litter social media recounting their personal experience of a given topic and believing if that is their experience it must be everybody’s, and if people recount a different experience to yours they must be untruthful.

          I suggest you have never had an orgasm. There is a small percentage of men who do not orgasm, (and a larger percentage of women), although they can learn to. You have ejaculated and got the primeval satisfaction feelings which evolution has provided mammal male species to ensure males spend most of their time seeking to ejaculate. People who do orgasm, are overwhelmed for between 5 seconds and 30 seconds with such an intense pleasure feeling that all other conscious awareness is blotted out. Like a hit of crack cocaine. You have never had that according to your account.

          I suggest you read scientific papers on the subject rather than rely on standard dictionaries for information.

  14. David says:

    If a full blown orgasm is a 10 and a ruined orgasm is a 1. The few times I ejaculated in a CB3000 i would rate it as a 4. I actually did it using a Q-Tip rubbing the locked penis through the slots in the cage. I found that the skin inside the cage becomes hyper sensitive after wearing it for hours. A ejaculation in a CB does have a strange sense of huge disappointment. A four rather than a 10 orgasm for one, but that fact that I climaxed at all while locked.

  15. Sweep says:

    I have orgasmed in a steel, cage/tube-type chastity device, and there was indeed euphoria. Outside of the device, I have also ejaculated without euphoria, and so can tell the difference, if you know what I mean. It is frustrating, because while I want to climax, I also “enjoy” beind prevented from climaxing, so the aim has not been achieved, but the actual physical and mental orgasm itself is undiminished, for me. In fact, as tinus says above, it is sometimes a stronger orgasm due I guess to the long build-up.
    Sweep

    • Thank you, some excellent additional material for my manual. I had not thought to mention the multiple ‘ruined orgasm’ which is a considerable experience for a male. The writer has a great style but I fear she is affected by some strong cognitive bias when she says all men will love a single ruined orgasm. The men I have been involved uniformly DETEST a single spoiled orgasm and consider the act is perfectly named. My straw pole also had a clear majority of respondents HATING single spoiled orgasms. But thank you because the multiple ‘ruined orgasm’ should be included in the manual as an experience of a different nature to the single ruined orgasm.

  16. Pippa Minty says:

    Sorry, newbie Dom here…
    Isn’t ejaculation without orgasm essentially what is called a “ruined” orgasm?
    If so, I would love to learn to perfect that technique. I do not use chastity devices on my sub, but I love the frustration that comes from the lack of orgasm (euphoria) after he ejaculates… The problem is, I am very rarely successful at this…

    • It all gets a bit complicated but if you follow this advice,
      The core concept is actually very simple. If “10″ is his point-of-no-return (the point at which his reflexes kick in and orgasm becomes inevitable), then you want to take him to “10″ exactly… then let go, back off, and cease all stimulation. As long as he doesn’t touch himself, his reflexes will carry him through a ruined orgasm. Mission Accomplished!,
      You have to be watching him like a hawk and let go just before he begins to spurt.
      The advice is from this site (she is a great writer.) http://healthysexymarriage.tumblr.com/post/145637171302/the-ruined-orgasm

      I say it is complicated because she talks about giving her man consecutive spoiled orgasms which is a very different experience to a single one. She also talks about her man loving a single spoiled orgasm and getting euphoria. If this is the case, it is very, very rare and I assure you most men HATE a single spoiled orgasm.

  17. Jacob Y says:

    Mistress Scarlet, I am sorry for being a thorn in your side earlier. I will also say that you suggested earlier that Lenny had never had a true orgasm is he had not felt the euphoria. I think that may be similar to me. I have felt what in my mind was good orgasms and lesser orgasms… but maybe I’ve never had a foll blown orgasm. If this is the case, I came at this from a very skewed view and understand your points so much more clearly.

    With that said, and with the fact that I would say I felt satisfied and/or relieved every single time I ever ejaculated, may I suggest that a dominant who finds a male like me (who thinks he is getting something he wants every time he ejaculates) add one simple thing to the ejaculation: unwanted pain. Right when the moment of relief begins, let go of the penis as usual and smack the testicles hard enough to ruin ANY good feeling that we may feel from the release of semen…. or slap the face hard a few times and remove any awareness of sensations from the genital area at all.

    I humbly apologize for my earlier posts and hope this is an acceptable suggestion?

    Jacob

  18. LickYourHeels says:

    I come in my metal cage without any physical contact.

    I prefer the feeling because it takes longer and is more intense.

    • If there is no physical contact, what provides the stimulation?

      • Jacob Y says:

        I’ve never experienced a cage, but I am curious as to this as well. Do you mean no direct contact to the penis but a vibrator to the cage itself?

        • yes, there are plenty of videos of this technique on Tumblr etc.

          • Jacob Y says:

            I’m sorry… miscommunication. I am familiar with vibrator to cage pictures and videos. I was asking ‘LickYourHeels’ what he meant when he said he comes in his cage with “no physical contact.” You had followed up by asking him “what provides the stimulation?” and I was trying to figure out if by saying, “no physical contact” he meant “contact ONLY to the cage and not the prisoner inside it.

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